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Race Retro 2018

Post  CDM on Sun Jan 14, 2018 7:37 pm

Please note that the SHMAC will NOT be going to Race Retro this year, with its varied model car display.

We have done every one since it started. In the early days it was fantastic, Fridays were just amazing, but recently the show has dropped quite a bit. It used to take me the best part of 2 - 3 hours to rummage through the autojumble. Last year it took me 30 minutes.

Over the last few years a few club members dropped out, but with the excellent support of Dave S, Dave C and Steve N we managed to keep going. But I think we have finally ran out of steam. So sorry to everyone who used to come an say hello we will not be in our usual spot in 2018.


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Post  Sal the 2nd on Mon Jan 15, 2018 10:01 am

That's a shame Chris but thanks to everyone who made the stand a must visit location over the years.

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Post  CDM on Sun Feb 18, 2018 12:52 pm

Just to clear up why we are not displaying at Race Retro 2018.

Every year we have to apply for a place at this show (and infact for any big show), you dont get invited.

So I never applied for a position at Race Retro this year, it was our decision not to be part of Race Retro, hence we will not be displaying this year.

The SHMAC has been displaying at many shows for many years. Some of the team have dropped out over those years and we were very grateful for Dave S, Dave C and Steve N for stepping into help us out in latter years. But trying to think up new themes every year and the costs of putting that together was getting a bit waring. We basically ran out of steam and it was for this reason only we stopped.

In the early days of Race Retro it was a fantastic show to be part of. But like every show it has changed. I understand that the organisers were still looking for displays in January, which is leaving it all a bit late.

I see that the recently restored Ford RS1700T will be there and Miki Biasion on the rally stage. Not seen an entry list for the rally stage yet.

If you are going enjoy the show please let us know what you felt about it.

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Re: Race Retro 2018

Post  Speedy on Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:31 pm

Group 1
0 Ryan Cooke Evoque LRM 1 LIVE RALLY STAGE
1 Miki Biasion Lancia Delta 16v Integrale LIVE RALLY STAGE
2 Alister McRae Subaru Legacy LIVE RALLY STAGE
3 Ben Mellors Proton Iriz R5 LIVE RALLY STAGE
4 Chris Ingram Ford Fiesta R5 LIVE RALLY STAGE
5 Dave Wright Ford Focus WRC LIVE RALLY STAGE
6 Steve Goode Subaru Impreza S11 WRC LIVE RALLY STAGE
7 Nigel Feeney Mini Countryman WRC LIVE RALLY STAGE
8 Craig Pennington Volkswagen Polo WRC Proto LIVE RALLY STAGE
9 Graham Butler Ford Escort WRC LIVE RALLY STAGE
10 Rob Dennis Subaru Impreza WRC LIVE RALLY STAGE
11 Will Nicholls Subaru Impreza WRC LIVE RALLY STAGE
12 Niall Moroney Subaru Impreza WRC LIVE RALLY STAGE
13 Steve Chamberlain Proton Satria S2000/Mitsubishi Evo 4LIVE RALLY STAGE
14 Steve Rimmer BMW M3 LIVE RALLY STAGE
15 Darrell Taylor Ford Escort Group A Cosworth LIVE RALLY STAGE
16 Jade Paveley Subaru Impreza LIVE RALLY STAGE
17 Dave Paveley Mitsubishi Lancer E3 GpA LIVE RALLY STAGE
18 John/Gareth Lay Proton Pert LIVE RALLY STAGE
19 Chris Daykin Subaru Impreza GpN LIVE RALLY STAGE
20 Lee Kedwood Mitsubishi Lancer E2 LIVE RALLY STAGE
21 David Greer Toyota GT86 LIVE RALLY STAGE
22 Jason Lepley Ford Escort F2 Kit Car LIVE RALLY STAGE
23 Jess Watts Nissan Micra Kit Car LIVE RALLY STAGE
24 Roger Pristnall Proton Satria S1600 LIVE RALLY STAGE
25 Darrell Jnr Taylor Ford Fiesta ST LIVE RALLY STAGE
26 Nick/Derek Wilkins Volkswagen Golf LIVE RALLY STAGE
27 Adrian Kermode Vauxhall Nova LIVE RALLY STAGE
28 Adam Houston Chevrolet Spark LIVE RALLY STAGE

Group 2
0 Ryan Cooke Evoque LRM 1 LIVE RALLY STAGE
29 Ian Gwynne Ford RS1700T LIVE RALLY STAGE
30 Kevin/Andrew Furber/Medlicott Peugeot 205 T16 LIVE RALLY STAGE
31 David Halford Audi Quattro Sport LIVE RALLY STAGE
32 Warren Philliskirk MG Metro 6R4 LIVE RALLY STAGE
33 Tony Worswick Ferrari 308 GTB LIVE RALLY STAGE
34 James Avis Ford RS200 LIVE RALLY STAGE
35 Andrew Cooper Renault 5 Turbo 1 LIVE RALLY STAGE
36 Oliver Smith Opel Manta 400 LIVE RALLY STAGE
37 Jeff Williamson Mazda RX7 LIVE RALLY STAGE
38 Dave Higgs MG Metro 6R4 LIVE RALLY STAGE
39 Nick/Tom Barrington Audi Quattro LIVE RALLY STAGE
40 Andrew Denyer Renault 5 Turbo 2 LIVE RALLY STAGE
41 Tim Clarke Audi Quattro LIVE RALLY STAGE
42 Andy Trayner Audi Quattro LIVE RALLY STAGE
43 Kevin Jones Ferrari 308 GTB LIVE RALLY STAGE
44 Neil Brighton Renault 5 Turbo LIVE RALLY STAGE
45 Richard Smith Metro 6R4 LIVE RALLY STAGE
46 Lee Foley Audi Quattro LIVE RALLY STAGE
47 Steve Harkness Ford Sierra Cosworth LIVE RALLY STAGE
48 Simon Powell Opel Manta 400 LIVE RALLY STAGE
49 Duncan Waite Ford Sierra Cosworth LIVE RALLY STAGE
50 Jim Newport Opel Manta 400 LIVE RALLY STAGE
51 Clayton Parmenter Ford Sierra Cosworth LIVE RALLY STAGE
52 Martyn Wilby Ford Escort Cosworth LIVE RALLY STAGE
53 Tony Sheilds Ford Sierra Cosworth LIVE RALLY STAGE
54 Ian Hill Opel Manta LIVE RALLY STAGE
55 Steve Magson Mercedes 190e Cosworth LIVE RALLY STAGE
56 John Partridge Lancia Delta 16v Integrale LIVE RALLY STAGE
57 Adrian Kermode Vauxhall Astra Mk2 LIVE RALLY STAGE
58 John Anderson Opel Kadett GTE LIVE RALLY STAGE
59 Dominic/Tom Delaney Peugeot 205 Gti Gp A LIVE RALLY STAGE
60 Stuart McLaren Vauxhall Nova 1.3 LIVE RALLY STAGE
61 Mark Young Peugeot 205 Gti LIVE RALLY STAGE
62 Mark Barnes Fiat Abarth Cinquecento LIVE RALLY STAGE
63 Christian Prynne Peugeot 205 Gti Gp A LIVE RALLY STAGE
64 Martin Cayzer Peugeot 205 Gti Gp N LIVE RALLY STAGE

Group 3
0 Ryan Cooke Evoque LRM 1 LIVE RALLY STAGE
65 Jimmy McRae Vauxhall Chevette HSR LIVE RALLY STAGE
66 Geoff Jones Fiat 131 Abarth LIVE RALLY STAGE
67 Mick Strafford Firenza Can-Am LIVE RALLY STAGE
68 Ian Gwynne Talbot Lotus Sunbeam LIVE RALLY STAGE
69 Chris Birkbeck Opel Ascona 400 LIVE RALLY STAGE
70 Eian Pritchard Ford Escort RS1800 LIVE RALLY STAGE
71 Paul Howarth Ford Escort RS1800 LIVE RALLY STAGE
72 Charlie Gabb Ford Escort Mk 2 LIVE RALLY STAGE
73 Chris/Kevin Skills/Vaites Ford Escort Mk 1 LIVE RALLY STAGE
74 Stuart Anderson Vauxhall Chevette 2.3 HSR Group 4LIVE RALLY STAGE
75 AJ Khalid Ford Escort RS Group 4 LIVE RALLY STAGE
76 Shaune Clorley Talbot Lotus Sunbeam LIVE RALLY STAGE
77 Russ Mason Ford Escort Mk2 LIVE RALLY STAGE
78 Mike Barratt Talbot Lotus Sunbeam LIVE RALLY STAGE
79 David Gathercole Ford Escort Mk1 Lotus Twincam LIVE RALLY STAGE
80 Lee Sellers Triumph 2.5 pi LIVE RALLY STAGE
81 David Harris Ford Escort Mk2 LIVE RALLY STAGE
82 Paul Kynaston Opel Ascona 400 LIVE RALLY STAGE
83 Paul Holmes Ford Escort Mk2 LIVE RALLY STAGE
84 Josh Carr Ford Escort Mk1 LIVE RALLY STAGE
85 Darren Howard Ford Escort RS Group 4 LIVE RALLY STAGE
86 Duncan Pearcey Datsun 240Z LIVE RALLY STAGE
87 Scott Armstrong Datsun 160j LIVE RALLY STAGE
88 Paul Hunter Chrysler Avenger LIVE RALLY STAGE
89 Trevor Hancock Triumph TR7 V8 LIVE RALLY STAGE
90 Neil Maynard Triumph TR7 V8 LIVE RALLY STAGE
91 Terry Maynard Lotus Esprit LIVE RALLY STAGE
92 Geoff Maybank Toyota Celica RA 40 LIVE RALLY STAGE
93 Anthony Harrison Ford Escort Mexico Mk1 LIVE RALLY STAGE
94 John Cadwallader Ford Cortina Mk2 LIVE RALLY STAGE
95 Patrick Walker Triumph 2.5 pi LIVE RALLY STAGE
96 Jim Partridge Rover Mini GpA LIVE RALLY STAGE
97 Patrick Walker Mini Cooper S LIVE RALLY STAGE
98 Mark Tabor Volvo Amazon LIVE RALLY STAGE
99 Bronwyn Burrell Austin Maxi LIVE RALLY STAGE

100 Jamie Small Audi Quattro Sport Parc Ferme Static
101 Chris Elliot RS200 Road Car Parc Ferme Static

102 Russ Mason Ford Sapphire Cosworth Miki Biasion Tribute Stand
103 Robert Wadsworth Lancia 037 Miki Biasion Tribute Stand
104 Andrew McAlpine Lancia Delta Integrale Miki Biasion Tribute Stand

105 Simon Daly Skoda Favorit RWGB Main Stand
106 Kerry Michael Opel Manta 400 Tarmac car RWGB Main Stand
107 Mellors Elliot Motorsport Proton Iriz R5 RWGB Main Stand
108 Brian Betteridge Ford RS1700T RWGB Main Stand
109 Kingsley Becks Mini Cooper 998 RWGB Main Stand
110 Brian Betteridge Ford RS200 RWGB Main Stand
111 BGM Sport Skoda Octavia WRC RWGB Main Stand
112 BGM Sport Nissan Sunny F2 RWGB Main Stand

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Post  Cowley on Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:34 pm

Speedy wrote:
38 Dave Higgs MG Metro 6R4 LIVE RALLY STAGE
NOT an MG Metro 6R4!.... Evil or Very Mad

I won't be attending this year, not even to browse the autojumble and watch the rally stage action.
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Post  Sal the 2nd on Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:59 pm

Going on Saturday. Had hoped to see both RS1700Ts out but one is better than none. Big entry but just have a feeling that as nice as it is all the "newer" machinery wont be quite in keeping with the Retro title. Also when the organisers talk about Group C rally cars on the website you have to get a little concerned.

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Post  reeft1 on Thu Feb 22, 2018 6:57 pm

Big turn out
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Post  CDM on Thu Feb 22, 2018 10:20 pm

As you say a big turn out, perhaps too big. They wont get much running time in the 4 sessions they have with that many.

The RS1700T is the only one I would really like to see along with Miki Biasion and Alistair McRae.

The RS has to appear again lets hope it will be at Rally Day in September.

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Post  Sal the 2nd on Mon Feb 26, 2018 12:35 pm

Went on Saturday as planned. Getting in and out this year seemed that bit easier with no queuing to park.

Numbers wise I've seen it busier IMO but overall it was very similar in feel other than more money seemed to have been spent on fixtures and fittings and the lighting seemed better, oh and the heating was on except in the cowsheds where the "autojumble" was. Interesting that the rally car parc ferme was shielded off from those guys by a black curtain but not sure how many exhaust fumes that stopped getting through. Plenty of nice exhibits on the rally front especially the gorgeous Legacy in Eklund Clarion livery. It was a shame not to see the usual display of rally models and still cant quite get my head around the pasty and sausage stalls as wouldn't want to eat anything that had been out in that heat for a couple of days but hey ho.

Didnt buy a single model as prices were at a level I guess that was needed to cover shell/stall rent (£20+ for an Altaya part work for example) and as am stopping buying rally books nothing tempted me to spend!

Rally stage wise it was a bit of hit and miss. The spectator barriers had been moved back a good 20 or so yards in keeping with current H&S paranoia and most of the course was off limits so will have to invest in a bigger lens if go again! Also there was hardly any PA for most of the course and although it meant not having to listen to the usual waffle it meant keeping a proper eye out for the cars you wanted to see. The mix of machinery was at best eclectic and at times appeared like a well attended club single venue rally. Not really sure how a Mini WRC fits in with the "retro" concept and there was no real split of the groups as per the schedule with cars appearing at random times and in no obvious chronological order. Cant imagine anyone unfamiliar with the history of the sport being able to understand what was going on and what was a genuine historical car or a replica. There appears to be a bit of rivalry now between the various clubs that have sprung up to cater for the "rally festival" type of events so guess they are having to be a bit less discerning about the type of car they cater for.

Regardless of that and thanks to Mike Rimmer though we got to see a Ford RS1700T in its original test livery in action which is something I thought would never happen. I believe Alistair McRae was driving and although only saw the car complete two runs (it didnt appear for the afternoon) it was great to see and worth the trip alone.

Will post some pics once I've sorted a new hosting site.

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Post  reeft1 on Mon Feb 26, 2018 1:08 pm

Saw a video clip of the RS with A Mcrae over from Oz behind the wheel - looked superb
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Post  Hampton Caught on Fri Mar 02, 2018 1:15 pm

Mmmm! Very impressive list of rally stage entrants - only hope you didn't have to type them all in manually, Speedy! lol!

Of course, with so many cars being lined up, none would get much stage time out there, so a double-edged sword. Wink Missed not attending, meeting up with you guys and displaying some models this year. Still, meant I could spend some time building some models instead!!

Will be interested to see the pics as and when, fellas.

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Post  burnsy471 on Sat Mar 03, 2018 1:18 pm

I was disappointed not to see you guys there this year as your display and a good chat was always one of the highlights for me. Understand your reasons though as it's clearly a lot of work to get everything together.
In general I thought the show was still worth attending, and the chance to see some cars in action during the day sets it apart from most of the other shows through the year - as many of you have said, seeing the RS1700T in action was a real treat. As for the cars on the stage; I loved the Mantas, Asconas, Firenza, Sunbeams, 131 Abarth, T16, 6R4, R5T - I could go on. As for what makes a car retro? Are the early WRC cars really old enough yet? Not sure, but driven hard they're still fun to watch and may just attract some of the younger folks to the sport. I'd love to see an 037 or Stratos turn up, and the return of a Delta S4. And what about getting Retro Rallycross on stage - that would be fantastic! How about it Steve, can you pull any strings?
Parc ferme was well worth a trip around too, though it wasn't exactly well signposted. I only found my way in on Sunday, and then only because I walked past the entry on the way from a different car park.
I'll definitely be back next year, and keep my fingers crossed that the organisers don't price any more of the autojumble and stall holders out of attending.
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Post  Hampton Caught on Sat Mar 03, 2018 1:52 pm

Hi Mark,

I've had similar thoughts myself in previous years and the event has usually been too soon after the Autosport exhibition at the NEC but I will ceetainly ask again. Terry and Neil Maynard, who often compete in Retro Rallycross always support Race Retro anyway (though with different cars) so we're part way there already!! Laughing Dave Halford was on the rally stage this year too, by the looks of it and he is looking to have a car ready for the Group B championship this year too. Cool

I will let you guys know how I get on.....

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Re: Race Retro 2018

Post  CDM on Sat Mar 03, 2018 2:48 pm

Steve & Mark

I think you are right - why are there no more Rallycross cars out on the stage and why dont the Retro Rallycross team have a stand at the show, with cars etc...?

I have thought about taking an autojumble stand in Hall 3 but the stand costs are prohibitive to do it on my own, and I dont have free accomodation anymore!!

The two times I did take a stand sharing with the late John Horton I did pretty well.

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