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Post  reeft1 on Sun Dec 03, 2017 10:58 pm

FSO Stratopolonez modele.strafa.pl
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Moskvitch-Aleko 2141-KR Miheikin USSR Rally Championship Vadim Pokrovsky number 5 of 20
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Citroen Visa Lotus MF Creation TO FOLLOW
Seat Bimotor Partswork
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Audi Mittelmotor partswork base modify TO FOLLOW
Ferrari 288 GTO Evoluzione Joeuf
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Alfa Romeo Alfasud Sprint 6 C Alezan TO FOLLOW
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Post  Zeus on Thu Dec 07, 2017 6:57 pm

Hadn't thought of these. Great work Cool Missing RS1700t
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Post  reeft1 on Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:05 pm

Doh! And ive two of those already built!
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Post  reeft1 on Thu Dec 07, 2017 10:34 pm

Ford RS200 E2 modified partswork
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The Portugal test in 1982 saw Airikkala and Vatanen testing 2 RS "1700T's". 100W was running the 1780 Turbo engine, and for comparision 101W was running a Brian Hart 2.3. Sadly, the Quattro's performance meant that Ford rapidly pulled the plug on the 1700T Sad
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Post  Hampton Caught on Thu Dec 07, 2017 11:36 pm

Great theme, Paul. Great models there! Cool

I have also used Vitor's decals to create the Martin Schanche rallycross RS200, but had to correct the decal on the front of the bonnet. The Viking tyres logo has wheels on the original, but not on the decals as produced.

There was that awful-looking Citroen BX T16 thing as well as the Visa. I'm sure I;ve seen a 1/43 scale model of the BX somewhere or other. Would make a good addition to the collection, perhaps?

I'll get my anorak!!

Cheers, and congrats, Steve
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Post  reeft1 on Fri Dec 08, 2017 6:14 am

Thanks Steve. One thing i noticed last night is the RS200 is missing the naca ducts from in front of the rear wheels. Will have to fix that.

The BX and Visa actually ran in the WRC so are in a different collection theme.
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Post  Hampton Caught on Fri Dec 08, 2017 11:52 pm

Hi Paul,

Looks like my anorak slipped!! Laughing Thanks for setting me right - have never been a Citroen fan.

The RS200 didn't always have the ducts present. Might be worth checking some photos online to see if they were there or not for the event you have modelled your model on.

Cheers, Steve
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Post  Zeus on Sun Dec 10, 2017 3:58 pm

2 RS1700T's Cool need to get building my RPM one
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Post  newt5550 on Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:59 pm

Only just seen these. Some very nice different models there.
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Post  reeft1 on Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:10 pm

Lada Samara Eva Group B Proto - Vadim Pokrowsky model - number 4 of 20
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Post  bmd on Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:59 pm

Hi Paul,

Looks like my anorak slipped!! Laughing Thanks for setting me right - have never been a Citroen fan.


my 1;18 Otto version pic should help you with your anorak steve..
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some very original models as always paul, class m8!
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Post  reeft1 on Tue Dec 18, 2018 11:02 pm

Thanks Billy. Variety is the spice of life. Or was that Verity?....
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Post  Sal the 2nd on Wed Dec 19, 2018 9:50 am

reeft1 wrote:Thanks Steve. One thing i noticed last night is the RS200 is missing the naca ducts from in front of the rear wheels. Will have to fix that.

The BX and Visa actually ran in the WRC so are in a different collection theme.

I trust the original post was about the various prototypes that Citroen produced prior to the BX 4TC breaking cover which usually competed on the Mille Pistes rally in France and then disappeared!. There were at least 2 mid-engined 4wd drive versions of the Visa and a AX aswell as a couple of other BXs before the white elephant appeared.

One of the Visas is featured here:

https://lautomobileancienne.com/citroen-visa-lotus/

There is a great French book which has pics of the cars and others which I can recommend:

https://www.amazon.fr/Groupe-B-voitures-interdites-1982-1986/dp/2726893805

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Post  reeft1 on Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:26 am

I think there were 10 Visa group b prototypes in that rally in various configurations - one day in the dim and distant future i hope to make them all....

Citroen #201 VISA P RWD 2L B Proto
Citroen #202 VISA 4X4M FRONT ENGINE 4WD 1.6L B Proto
Citroen #202 VISA 4X4M FRONT ENGINE 4WD 1.5L B Proto
Citroen #203 VISA LIGHTWEIGHT 2RM FWD B Proto
Citroen #204 VISA 4X4O 4WD MID ENGINE 1.4L B Proto
Citroen #205 VISA STRASKIT MID ENGINE 2.0L RWD B Proto
Citroen #206 VISA 4X4 MID ENGINE 2.2L B Proto
Citroen #209 VISA 4X4 MID ENGINE 2.5L B Proto
Citroen #210 VISA 4X4 TWIN ENGINE 2X1.4L B Proto
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Post  reeft1 on Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:09 pm

Here is one of the above!
Provence Moulage Citroen Visa 4x4 Group B Proto - 1983 Mille Piste
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Post  reeft1 on Sat Nov 30, 2019 10:32 am

The choice was inevitable: if the successor to the all-conquering Lancia 037 was to have any chance of winning the World Rally Championship, it required four-wheel drive. In order to test the principles of this emerging technology, Giorgio Pianta spent one month creating a bizarre twin-engined prototype: the Lancia Trevi Bimotore.

In 1984 Lancia needed to replace the Rally 037. The rear-wheel-drive car had already performed miracles by winning the World Rally Championship for Makes the previous year, beating emerging Audi and Peugeot cars equipped with all-wheel drive; however, the clear technical superiority of its rivals convinced Lancia to develop a new contender with all-wheel drive.

In the Chivasso plant, Giorgio Pianta (versatile racing driver, test driver and Abarth team manager) designed and built a car that used two engines to provide four-wheel drive. The point of departure was the new Lancia Trevi Volumex, equipped with a supercharged two-litre engine that provided the vital low-end torque needed to win rallies.

Pianta dispensed with the rear seat bench, leaving a gap at the rear of the bodyshell for a subframe (just like the one at the front) that would house a second engine, identical to the first. The entire front axle, engine, gearbox and suspension were effectively duplicated at the rear. The rear doors were welded shut and fitted with large air intakes that cooled the mid-mounted engine. The deflector on the rear upright was also opened to provide another air inlet.

Although the red livery and the longitudinal stripe in the colours of Turin bring to mind the Amaranto Montebello colour of the winning Fulvia HF, the Trevi Bimotore definitely lacked sportiness and a competitive streak. Nevertheless, it proved to be an effective test vehicle.

The two engines were not mechanically coupled, only the two gearboxes were connected so that they could be operated by a single lever, with just one pedal to activate the two clutches. The two accelerators were controlled by a rudimentary electronic system that determined the delay in supplying power to the rear axle. In this way, Pianta tried to reduce oversteer and achieve faster curve exits to get the most out of his original creation.

The dashboard had two rev counters, the second of which replaced the speedometer, and two central gauges indicated the water temperature and oil pressure of each engine. The space-age dashboard was based on the standard design by Mario Bellini, with some indicator lights modified so that both engines could be kept under control. Although the car was fast and very effective, it was overweight due to having twice the mechanicals and the rear engine had a tendency to overheat.

The solution was not adopted on the Lancia Rally’s successor, the Delta S4, but curiously some similarities can be found in the road version of the S4: they include a mid-mounted engine, enclosed in a casing covered by the same beige carpet used in the passenger compartment, which was the exact same solution adopted by Pianta in the Trevi Bimotore. Other similarities: the removable wheel rims were identical to those on the road-going S4, because the Trevi Bimotore was used to test the special Pirelli tyres produced specifically for the new Lancia.

Partswork -probably the worst paintjob i've ever seen on one, but cheap enough and brand new/sealed so not the sellers fault.
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