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Post  bmd Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:50 pm

so after reading through several posts on here, and taking into account how different photos in different conditions can make the same colour look different, can i ask for opinions on the blues used on the coleman rothmans porsche, 6r4 and m3?
i believe brian you choose ts15 for a total repaint of the m3?
i also believe that my 1:18 KMD 6r4 uses the same colour as the base sunstar mcrae motor, ie kevin didnt paint it?
i left the otto 911 colour as per the base, and in some pix it looks fine tho ive also seen so-called replicas which are way lighter than mine...

so general question would be did rothmans colour change over the three original coleman cars? photos of the cars range from looking like royal blue to the otto navy blue and everything in between...

if i go to tackle the m3, and repaint it, it may look daft beside its two darker 'sisters', unless of course the actual original colour did vary?

all comments/opinions welcome...
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Post  Dr Tumbo Thu Dec 06, 2018 1:10 pm

Rothmans blue was a colour in its own right - there was a small paint company in the UK who used to (unsure if they still do) made small hobby tins of the stuff - wish for the life of me I could remember who they were Rolling Eyes (insert old age here)
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Post  potiman Thu Dec 06, 2018 2:58 pm

Came across this a short while ago, if it helps.

https://www.hiroboy.com/MG_Metro_6R4_Rothmans__White_and_Blue_Paint_Set_2x30ml--product--12416.html

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Post  bmd Thu Dec 06, 2018 2:59 pm

hi michael, so that would mean all rothmans liveries should be same shade then?

i use cobalt blue on my rothmans mantas, brian used ts15 to go lighter than the Otto M3 blue, and the web has myriad shades, or so it seems to these eyes...(insert my old age here lol)
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Post  bmd Thu Dec 06, 2018 4:52 pm

thankds david....im even more confused as the 6r4 in your pic looks lighter than the kmd conversion...l just looked at my mk2 escort and my ascona, when i set the vatanen escort, ascona, manta, porsche, m3 and 6r4 beside each other there are are several shades used....the m3 and porker are very dark, the escort and 6r4 quite dark and the manta less so....unless the model makers are winging it it seems like there are several shades used in the rothmans motors... Rolling Eyes
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Post  brian Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:26 pm

TS15 may not be the correct shade either. I used it on my Coleman M3 but have my doubts now.
That being said, I dont think the shade otto are using is correct either, the 911 is really dark. Even Galway 86 with Coleman, poor light that time of year, poor cameras for the time etc still looks brighter than Ottos attempt.

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Post  bmd Fri Dec 07, 2018 9:51 am

thanks brian for that, i also thought the true colour, if there was one, lay somewhere between your ts15 and the darker otto shade...
but  this porsche sportscar shade is dark...
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as is ari's escort, though less so
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and then theres the m3
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confused . com!! Rolling Eyes
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Post  bmd Fri Dec 07, 2018 9:55 am

in some lights otto isnt as far away as you'd think... Question
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Post  bmd Fri Dec 07, 2018 9:59 am


prodrive display ...

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Post  Dr Tumbo Fri Dec 07, 2018 11:06 am

having been to Prodrive back in 2009 the blue on their Porsche and 6r4 was exactly the same. It has quite a deep colour through it so different light conditions will effect the photo you see (that last one looks exactly the same except there are brighter lights over the 6r4 Wink  ) plus remember that some people put a clear coat over as well which will change what you see

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That m3 is from a computer game Wink
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Post  bmd Sun Dec 09, 2018 11:50 pm

thanks michael. Smile
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Post  Mal Mon Dec 10, 2018 9:51 am

This is a can of worms.

Tamiya with their Rothmans Porsche 956 say to use X4

Renaissaance with their Rothmans 911 - Toivonen say to use Dupont G0358

Gunze Sangyo with their Porsche 959 tell you to mix Aqueous Hobby Color 65 Bright Blue (70%) and 5 Blue (30%)

Studio 27 with their M3 TdeC don't tell you what to use, great

Meri Kits with their Alfa 75 tell you to use Fiat 435

I think my job here in confusing the beejesus out of you is now done. rabbit

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Post  bmd Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:04 pm

well, Mal..............................................gee thanks!!!!!!!!! Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad

know what, think ill prob stick with the crappy dark shades that come on the ottos lol!!!!! Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed


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Post  Dr Tumbo Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:55 am

Mal wrote:This is a can of worms.

Tamiya with their Rothmans Porsche 956 say to use X4

Renaissaance with their Rothmans 911 - Toivonen say to use Dupont G0358

Gunze Sangyo with their Porsche 959 tell you to mix Aqueous Hobby Color 65 Bright Blue (70%) and 5 Blue (30%)

Studio 27 with their M3 TdeC  don't tell you what to use, great

Meri Kits with their Alfa 75 tell you to use Fiat 435

I think my job here in confusing the beejesus out of you is now done. rabbit

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Post  Sal the 2nd Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:53 pm

Bit of a topic elsewhere as well. Quite a few comments on the Otto Facebook page about the blue they have used. Someone says it is the more like the Williams F1 cars...
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